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Needs to be in neutral with the green light ON in the speedometer for the electric starter to engage . Brake not needed . Or in gear with the shifter held all the way up or down to disengage the clutch to push start . Release the shifter to turn the motor. If your rectifier is the stack of metal plates type , they are toxic so handle carefully & seal it up on removal . Good Luck ! Baby Huey

CC: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
From: beaubm01@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:12:50 -0400
Subject: Re: [Honda-C70] Re: Wires frying 1970 C70M


Thanks for the link. I disconnected all the rectifier wires connected the battery turned the ignition on and hot the starter button. Nothing. Not even a click or a buzz. I have the bike on a bench. I will have to bring it down and try a kick. I've had nukes in the past that required you to hold in the brake lever when starting. Is that necessary on the c70m?

Thanks everyone for the help!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:19 AM, "rdwnj" <rdwnj@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello Mike,
>
> Looking at a C70M wiring diagram, see
> http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/WiringDiagrams/MCwiring.php#class
> choose C70M
>
> The starter should work, if the ignition switch is on and battery power is supplied to the ignition and starter solenoid (starter magnetic switch). It is easier on the ignition if you use the kick starter:)
>
> Ron in NJ
>
> --- In Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com, MIke Beaubien <beaubm01@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you. If I disconnect the wires from the rectifier, should the electric start still work
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jul 24, 2011, at 7:43 PM, william belleau <wjbelleau@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds like the rectifier is shorted. Yes you can run the bike with no battery, but take the headlight bulb out, the alternator
> > > will fry the headlight if you have the rest of the electrical system hooked up.
> > > I would go with a solid state rectifier. I do believe Mr Pardue has the info, it is in the file section of this group. Scroll down till you find
> > > recent activities, just below that is visit your group. or try this http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/8KMsTkxrx59nw1VEgR9isMHeMvcwjRhrN--ML9G0jpmdcAVrkpO6YuB82q9xyst40wDF-ecp0cZHriBwokkMIlgj6xKQhkI/Electric%20System%201-2-3%27s/Make%20your%20own%20rectifier%20for%20the%20Cub%20or%20Passport.pdf
> > > Bill
> > > Portland OR
> > >
> > > From: sammyboy918 <beaubm01@...>
> > > To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 8:55 AM
> > > Subject: [Honda-C70] Wires frying 1970 C70M
> > >
> > >
> > > Hooked up battery to my 1970 recently acquired C70M. The red wire that goes up to the rectifier gets hot within seconds and begins to melt. !st, ?, why would this be happening. Second question, if there is a short somewhere causing this, can I disconnect all the wires to the rectifier to see if this scoot will start with the kick starter? Should the electric start work without the rectifier wires hooked up? I don't care about any lights right now, just want t check engine to see if it will run.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
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